Hello Pete!

[soullimbo]

ethy already has his equation now, otherwise why would he trade Adam's 12

[kaycali86]

You played with him before! . He said doesn't need multiply. Do note that ethy is down 10 chips still, so reaching 9 to 11 equation could still beat him

[soullimbo]

I totally agree, he lost this MM when he bid for the division symbol in round 2. You Trevor and Adam still have 20 coins....working together and making sure you get the numbers you want without spending too many coins should be your main priority right now. If you can get a total of 9 or 11, you can all spare 4 chips and still be ahead on the count. Just hope that Ethy doesn't figure out your plan, cause then he has a 50/50 chance of guessing your hidden number.

This is actually a very good MM , tactically speaking.

[kaycali86]

I plan to bid, but prefer trevor or Adam winning. At work! So be back in few hours

[kaycali86]

Trying to think about what Ethy would get if he obtained 12, with division and plus.

Scenario 1: ? /12 + (2nd number). With his ? it would be impossible to know. However, he would need the 2nd number to be a 9, 10, or 11, with 10 being his ideal solution.

Scenario 2: 12 / ? + (2nd number): The fact that he really wanted a 12 over 8, I think his hidden number is in the high number range. 9 to 12 possible. From my talk with him, he seems flexible , but needs 9, 10, or 11, with 9 being his ideal solution.

Well I bid 5, but I prefer if you, rexxy or ethy drop out. Should Ethy or Rexxy bet again, i'd let them win this round so they realize they made a mistake on overspending chips.

Well, unsure what number you are seeking, or obtaining a number that Ethy/Rexxy needs, and they would have to barter you for chips. 4th bid, I don't personally don't want to win, but prefer Trevor/Adam winning.

[soullimbo]

ok..Ethy has 12 , division and subtract !!

Which means his hidden number is anything between 6 and 12.

We can rule out 11 and 12, cause if he had 12 already, he would not trade adam, and if he had 11, same thing, he wouldn't need to trade.

so it's 6/7/8/9/10

his equation will be:
12 - ?/final number or final number/? , the important thing is that the highest number goes first, so his equation will be 12 - 1. + 10.

[kaycali86]

Okay thanks for clarifying. Been under the impression he had plus instead of minus . Thanks for setting up scenarios.

[kaycali86]

Unsure if you can win now . I thought youd take either 11 or 10 to prevent one of them

[soullimbo]

I know I can't win now, but I coudn't win if I pass either. The only way I stood a chance was if the three of you worked together to bid higher, which would almost level all the players off in the coin count, while also hampering Ethy. Now I'm probably last, but I'm guessing Ethy wins the MM.

[kaycali86]

Adam has been mute with me throughout mm, so there was never a chance to working with him. These previous MMs, nearly everyone but me is helping Ethy win these MMs. There is no way im letting ethy take this mm.

[soullimbo]

Adam actually bid 7 during that last round...all it takes is an offer where he still wins the bid and only uses 5 coins. You and Trevor bid 5 and 6 respectively. Get together, find out who wants what number and make a deal. And as a bonus Ethy has last pick and there's a chance he gets the 2 which would screw up his equation. You missed an opportunity. Best of luck.

Just to give you a chance, I'll tell you now that I don't have 10 as my final total. That should at least help you figure out what my hidden number could be

[kaycali86]

Well this will be an interesting game.

Here's what i've been doing during this MM.

Trevor: Working with Trevor to the point where both of us agreed to not take each other DM, after he realize Ethy never really had his back from the recent DM had with Arnold. This 4th round, we both talked about helping each other. We're not going to go out of way to outbidding 14 chips where both of us will spend 7 chips each. Having Adam not replying to posts.

Rexxy: Took the liberty of taking multiply to gain favor from Rexxy. Had i just simply took '-', Rexxy would have a hard time trading his multiply, and a chance he'd lose this MM. Should he somehow lose this MM, a strong chance I don't get DM pick, seeing as I took a bullet, and he is competing against Ethy.

Ethy: able to socialize with him, even nearly him taking the '2' number during this round. Because of our 5 winning streak shared between us, iwe built a good social game between us.  The reason i'm targetting him is because of Joseph being eliminated.  We both we're a bit tired of people handing Ethy the wins.  Arnold did this 2-3 times, instead of winning.  I want to make sure that I build a case should I make into the finals that I won MM through my merits

Adam: Here's the problem, in which you think is my 'missed opportunity'. I reached out to him prior to round 4 bid. Nothing. No response, and he bidded 7, with my post suggesting if he needed help prior to his bid. With no communication, there was no opportunity to do so.

The players that are left, can't be reckless with chips, but the guests can, as they aren't DM picks. Ethy made an overspent bid where he would have suffered the consequence of the bid, but the overspent bid you did corrected Ethy's mistake, where now he stands a decent chance, and without Adam input, I wasn't going to go my way to waste 7 chips. We already have an advantage of +10 chips, and with Ethy even making 10 equation, we still would be ahead of him due to our chip count, and he'd have to make educated guesses to attempt to win.

However, I will thank you for your posts for your insight and calculations regarding ethy's potential number and brainstorming scenarios. My strengths in 'the genius' is my social game. I am banking on my social capital to avoid DM should I not win.   thanks for giving a narrow conclusion of ethy's potential hidden number.  

If I feel that I would lose this DM, its through my own faults for being passive of not bidding much to guarantee signs/numbers, and appease players.
My equation right now is not good atm, but i'll see what I can pull off. Not easy getting last pick selections throughout MM.  I'm still down for trading if you still want to

[soullimbo]

You say your equation is not good...I hope for you it's at least 2 away from 10, anymnore than that and you lose your advantage over ethy

Would both my numbers help you get a better equation ?

[kaycali86]

As of right now - I can make an equation that puts me in decent range. We both initially did not want 4, but taking multiply, I realized I needed 4 only if swap plus for minus, so i'm not out of range in equation score

Right now I am waiting for Trevor(he's been gone for 11 hours) as we both wanted to swap his plus and my multiply sign. From there, I will make equation that would still put me in 9, 10, 11 range.

Thanks for offer though! . If I did not swap 4, then I would have seeked your 6 ;p.

[soullimbo]

Kevin: Coins: 20, Tiles: ?, x, 4, -, 5

I think you need to rearrange this if waht you claim is correct