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Post by ethynol on May 29, 2017 12:39:04 GMT -5
Ahh something happening, well a detective is not a lawyer, but let me try to sell my case. Firstly, I'm not sure whether I'm playing the cop role optimally, but all I can think of as a cop is that he provides truthful information and it benefits people that trusted him, if there is no cop, or if people do not trust the cop, basically the team of murderers would just gang up together to pick off the villagers, since this game we're coming into it at 6-3, after 2 nights of killing, we are down to 4-3 quickly, it takes a little bit of confusion to throw people off the hook and vote the wrong way, and I understand that this vote is important, as one wrong move this round, basically send the villagers into the DM, so please think carefully and vote wisely. Secondly, when I first declare that I was the detective the previous round, and it was unchallenged the entire round, which meant that either I was the actual detective, or that the actual detective was actually Rexxy that got killed in the first night .. what an unfortunate thing it would be.. But to be able to outrightly declare that I am the detective right off the bat, without any objection from anyone else, shows that there is no other 'true detective' Yes, like what Arnold said, I am unable to prove whether I was a cop or not, but seems like all evidences are pointed to 2 theories, (1) I am the actual cop (2) Rexxy is the cop and he unfortunately get killed in the first night. For (1) you guys need to trust me and my judgement and I will need your help as well, I need the support and the input from the villagers to plan out my next move, because, I am as clueless as everyone else and the information i get is as good as the information that everyone is going to get For (2), if it happens, the villagers are all probably doomed. There is no way villagers could win against murders with no prior information. If you guys want to discuss anything or ask Arnold or myself questions, I'm up for it, im gonna sleep soon so I'll try my best to answer as much as possible. I am here to help, and I need your help too if all of us villagers need to survive.
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Post by ethynol on May 29, 2017 12:57:18 GMT -5
I am completely innocent! I've been hiding it up to now, but I'm actually the doctor and I really don't want to die. The first night I saved Plat, but obviously that didn't work since Rexxy died. The second night I saved Ethy since I assumed he was actually the cop. I even thought he would check me out and confirm that I was innocent this round, but much to my surprise, he states in front of everyone that I'm a murderer! Please, if you have any hope at all and you want to win, please please please don't kill me! Also Mas, can you please remove the 4 vote majority thing, because although it does speed up the game, it doesn't give me, somebody who doesn't wake up until the end of the day phase, a chance to plead! I feel like when everyone has submitted their vote would be more fair. Edit: now that I think about it, even if you do kill me, you could win, but it would be a lot harder since there will be 6 people and 3 murderers, so as long as they stay united, which I don't know if they will or not, they can slowly pick you guys off one by one. Whereas, if we get rid of one murderer, there will be 4 citizens, 2 murderers and we have both the majority as well as a doctor to hopefully save people and stop them from killing us. Hopefully we also have a cop, but based on nobody countering Ethy, I assume that Rexxy was the cop and died first night. Edit 2: I submit my vote for Ethy. I don't think he's actually the cop. This feels like Presidential Election . Btw, if we voted for the wrong person, villagers are doomed. We'd be down 3-3 and after they killed someone at night villagers are at 2-3 and would hence lose. If you're actually the doctor, you wouldn't have revealed yourself, basically at this stage all villagers matter and a wrong vote could mean it's over, doesnt matter you're a doctor or not. By revealing that youre the doctor, it almost gurantee that you're dead tonight, well unless you try to save yourself, but you are putting the entire villagers team in jeopardy. Hence, I plead to the villagers to not be convinced by Arnold and his claims. Obviously, right now the only person who knows that I'm speaking the truth is the true doctor, (ie; Not Arnold), but please do not reveal yourself, this game is still far from over. Well, we have no evidence that Arnold is saying the truth or not, but I hope that you guys could trust me in whatever I said. those who worked together with me in the previous MM before would know that, I think that these games are basically information war, now I feel that the detective is the only one that could provide cold hard facts and the fact that I was still here unchallenged by the true detective, it signifies that I am stating the truth, and you guys need me to provide the necessary information for us to win this.. and yeap, I agree with Arnold on the 4 vote majority thing.
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Post by ak on May 29, 2017 13:05:03 GMT -5
Oh snap.... well guys, for those who've worked with me, you know that I tend to act first think later, and here it is again. So in the end, I guess I'm going to die, whether by this vote right here or when the murderers kill me tonight (though I could save myself at night but there's still the chance that they don't kill me). So I plead for you all here, please don't let me die in vain. At least take out the fake cop called Ethy and then hopefully who I decide to save tonight will survive! Sorry everyone for my rash decision of exposing myself, hopefully we'll still be able to save ourselves from this!
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Post by ak on May 29, 2017 13:05:25 GMT -5
Also, I don't know how to delete the quote thingy
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Post by ethynol on May 29, 2017 13:20:40 GMT -5
I dont know how to delete that too haha! usually i just copy my post and post again.
Ugh should have played more werewolf/murderer when I was young haha.
Well, I'm gonna sleep soon so here's everything I think i need to say..
In the first round, before Mas altered the rules a little. I proposed the plan to go for a tie so that no one get sent to jail, I understand that the murderers just need numbers on the right side a couple of votes to establish a clear majority. My plan was to protect the villagers in the first round to make sure that we dont get overrun by them so easily. I had no information in the first round and instead of going for a blind, I chose the more conservative route, every decision from this point on is still a blind move, with some luck involved and a little bit of judgement mixed into it. It is a risky play but if things turn out well and if I have people that could trust me, everything will pay off and we can survive. Right now, I dont even know whats the best way to play the cop role, I just went with what I thought was the best move in mind and followed my gut. If you were to ask if I am confident about this game, I would say 'Nope', but I just went with a feeling and hope it's the right feeling.
Alright good night to all now and Hope I dont wake up in jail tomorrow..
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Post by lukachkinas on May 29, 2017 13:31:11 GMT -5
Ethy, my question to you - who do you think the doctor is? If you don't believe it's Arnold, then who? Because 2 other players were killed my murderers that weren't you because they might think that it would be a waste of turn - you would be saved by the doctor. But what if Rexxy or Kevin were a doctor? Then, you weren't actually protected, you just scared the murderers. Or if Arnold actually is a doctor? Then, you are an obvious target to the murderers, don't you think? What would your defence be and what is your plan for future rounds?
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Post by ethynol on May 29, 2017 13:47:21 GMT -5
Quick reply before I go to sleep.
I am sure Arnold is not a doctor because I know he is one of the murderer. I dont know for sure who is the doctor, since the doctor is supposed to be subtle. By declaring that I am the detective, it is synonymous to saying that 'I have the hidden immunity idol' in Survivor, there is a target on you, they (murderers) know they have to get rid of you, but they cant target you in a sense because you have that protection, in this game, a failed attack by the murderers could affect the game alot, as it gives me more time to figure out who are the murderers.
the true doctor may be them, and they may be dead, and I'm unprotected, but no one knows, no one could be sure of what they are doing and would the murderers take a chance to try to kill me the next night? There is a risk, but there is a 40% chance the doctor is dead.
I know I'm the target, making my role aware to everyone was my plan, the doctor has to act accordingly and there would be some psychologiclal battle on going with the doctor and the murderers. My plan is to continue to assume the figurehead and sniff out the murderers if possible, obviously, I would only know someone is the murderer for sure is if Mas told me so, obviously in this game there isnt a luxury of time to ask about everyone, I have to make educated guesses at certain point to unveil the murderer, at the same time keeping myself alive. I know they need to target me, but when, and when they target me, would I be safe? or would they not target me from now till the end and pick off the rest of the villagers, that is why the doctor's role is really important, and obviously we cant tell the doctor what to do publicly, but he has to figure out something.
At a certain point, I have to make educated guesses by going with my gut.
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Post by Joseph on May 29, 2017 14:21:13 GMT -5
omg I'm so glad I woke up in time before the deadline.
I will also vote to evict Arnold.
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Post by Bandage Man on May 29, 2017 15:58:42 GMT -5
The reason why I ask for a majority vote instead of most votes and why I change from a no-vote automatically going to the person with the most votes is to give everyone a fair chance. Cos if not, there is no other solution and nobody will always be sent to jail.
I have given until the deadline instead of just declaring the round over when I got the necessary votes to give the chance to plead the case in the end.
Anyway, Arnold is sent to jail and the day round is over.
The night round starts and it will end at 4 AM EST unless i get all the necessary posts earlier
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Post by Bandage Man on May 30, 2017 3:02:30 GMT -5
During the night, the murderers strike but the doctor manages to save the victim. Therefore, no one is dead.
There are 6 people left. So I need a majority of 4 votes to send someone to jail. If not, no one will be sent.
You have until 5 PM EST to discuss unless everyone locks in their votes earlier.
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Post by ethynol on May 30, 2017 3:16:18 GMT -5
YESS goood job, the DOCTOR is alive!!! Hurhur. I wanted to taunt the murderers but I dont even know if I was the one being attacked . Okay, I have no information from yesterday night, guess I was unlucky and picked the wrong guy. So we have 2 options, (1) let's not vote, and just go to sleep, while keeping the murderers lurking. I will have one night to spy on people again, but during any of the next 2 nights, if I guessed wrongly, we're done for. (2) Go with my gut and randomly pick one person to send to jail, I have a hunch, but it may be wrong. And note that with a wrong guess, we might lose this as well, but if you guys want to you can trust my judgement. My gut is telling me that Trevor is a murderer and I'll nominate Trevor to be sent to jail. I'll leave it to you guys to discuss, about which is a better move to do today.
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Post by Joseph on May 30, 2017 3:24:19 GMT -5
Its 1AM my time and I've been waiting all day for the day round too omg.
There's a degree of chance/risk for both options, but I think option 1 is the safer option since we still have a numbers advantage. Even if one of us dies we can still vote someone to go to jail next round.
There's no need to do option 2 imo bc guessing wrongly will lose us the game and it'd be a waste to lose because of chance. We can still vote Trevor to the jail if anyone else is willing to do it, but I would disagree at this point.
Shoutout to the doctor for giving us another night! -fistbumps ya-
ok i'm gonna sleep now bai haha
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Post by platypus09 on May 30, 2017 7:18:33 GMT -5
thanks doc that was clutch. anyways i agree probably not sending anyone to jail is probably the best move for now because we'll have another investigation tomorrow.
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Post by ethynol on May 30, 2017 13:13:18 GMT -5
Well, I guess so. Let's keep it as it is then. Let's not vote. Doctor, great job, right now I hope you could pull it off again. Now, I still have my suspicion on Trevor. I'm like 60% sure . I could be wrong with my judgement, there must be a reason for his silence? We'll wait for the next day then. Anyways, tonight I should be spying on Lukas. I'm gonna sleep now. Goodnight all. I hope my gut instinct isn't screwing us over, this MM is hard for me . I'm hoping for the best. Hope to see the rest of you alive the next morning. Save me doc
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Post by kelticwaters on May 30, 2017 13:55:59 GMT -5
Wow guys. I'm not the murderer I've just been busy, .
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